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biden doing this great work with military families, it's incredible the outreach they're doing and having the importance of the entire family unit. with gay people, even after don't ask don't tell, they're usually excluded from that. there are a thousand different other reasons that make it really hard. but when i did my piece, i am expanding now for a book, in 2000 we called it don't ask, don't tell, don't fall in love. that turned out to be the hard part. they can ask now and tell you about it's hard to fall in love. >> unresolved issues in the post don't ask don't tell military. i want to thank my guests today. laura flanders from grit tv.org and dave cullen the author of columbine. >>> and i want to thank chris hayes for having me in his seat today. you can catch me at 3:00 p.m. eastern on weekdays on the cycle. chris will be back at the desk next weekend on saturday and sunday. up next is melissa harris-perry. it may be the law of the land. republican governors are lining up to do what they can to obstruct the affordable care act. melissa has the former obama administration official.
biden doing this great work with military families, it's incredible the outreach they're doing and having the importance of the entire family unit. with gay people, even after don't ask don't tell, they're usually excluded from that. there are a thousand different other reasons that make it really hard. but when i did my piece, i am expanding now for a book, in 2000 we called it don't ask, don't tell, don't fall in love. that turned out to be the hard part. they can ask now and tell you about...
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up says joe biden. the door is open. so the question is john boehner puts a bill on the floor that raises taxes on the wealthy, even if just half as much as the president initially insisted on. is he going to get enough republican votes to pass that? no way in the world. there could be a revolt within the republican party. what do they need to pass that? democratic votes. who was in the west wing this afternoon? >> nancy pelosi. >> we're reading tea leaves but we're laking at something that could be a nascent development and i'm speculating a little bit. >> go a bit further. are you thinking around 37% for the top rate? >> reporter: 37% is the number that keeps coming up. the point is that it could be -- that could be the wiggle room there between that top rate -- remember, 39.6% was the rate during the clinton administration. there's also the question of limit of $250,000 by everybody above that as the president has said ad infinitum during the campaign and above that, those are the people whose taxes
up says joe biden. the door is open. so the question is john boehner puts a bill on the floor that raises taxes on the wealthy, even if just half as much as the president initially insisted on. is he going to get enough republican votes to pass that? no way in the world. there could be a revolt within the republican party. what do they need to pass that? democratic votes. who was in the west wing this afternoon? >> nancy pelosi. >> we're reading tea leaves but we're laking at...
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>> i don't know that even biden could really. biden has been a very good vice president and if things keep going, he doesn't have her star power. he doesn't have her ability to attract money. he doesn't have the excitement that she'll offer to democratic base voters. okay we elected the first african-american president. now let's finish and elect the first woman president now. i don't think anybody has that kind of calling card. >> it comes down to the money. the one thing the clintons can do is raise money. that may endear them. the money game is certainly different than what it was before. what about that? >> i think that's right. and she's not going to have outside of biden, who i don't think is really stiff competition for her. i don't think outside of that there is. it's not going to be like in 2008 she was one of three in the top tier. she's going to be the top tier in 2016 if she decides to run. but the circumstances have to be right for her.
>> i don't know that even biden could really. biden has been a very good vice president and if things keep going, he doesn't have her star power. he doesn't have her ability to attract money. he doesn't have the excitement that she'll offer to democratic base voters. okay we elected the first african-american president. now let's finish and elect the first woman president now. i don't think anybody has that kind of calling card. >> it comes down to the money. the one thing the...
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biden is the law's original sponsor. since the law's passage in 1994, domestic violence has dropped 58%. the senate has already passed a bipartisan bill with additional protections for undocumented immigrants, members of the lgbt community, and native americans. but republicans in the house want those protections removed. i think the talks are serious but the prospects dim. the senate democratic leadership aide told the hill newspaper. house republicans don't seem to be learning the lessons of the campaign and election. meanwhile, sources tell "the huffington post" kantor is on board as long as one thing is stripped from the bill, a key protection for native american women. cantor is refusing to accept any added protections for native american women that would give expanded jurisdiction to tribes and is pressuring democrats to concede on that front. in the meantime, the crew over at fox news is giving advice on women can protect themselves against violence. get a gun. fox news contributor dana perino slugged that suggest
biden is the law's original sponsor. since the law's passage in 1994, domestic violence has dropped 58%. the senate has already passed a bipartisan bill with additional protections for undocumented immigrants, members of the lgbt community, and native americans. but republicans in the house want those protections removed. i think the talks are serious but the prospects dim. the senate democratic leadership aide told the hill newspaper. house republicans don't seem to be learning the lessons of...
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vice president biden suggested there's wiggle room over rates. here it is. >> americtheoretically we can negotiate how far up, but we think the top rate should go to 39.6%. >> but that's not in concrete. what rate would be acceptable to you and house democrats? >> that sounds pretty good to e me. however, i think if we fall to the clinton era tax rates, i'm okay with that. i think that e we ought to have some wiggle room on the tax rates because i think the country wants us to compromise. so there's compromise space there, but make no mistake, we're not going to compromise away the upper end tax rates. that's on the table. it will stay on the table. that's what the american people are asking for. >> congressman, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." appreciate your time. remember to answer tonight's question. share your thoughts on twitter and on facebook. we always encourage you and want to know what you think. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell filibusters his own bill in the senate. bernie sanders joins us to talk about what that mea
vice president biden suggested there's wiggle room over rates. here it is. >> americtheoretically we can negotiate how far up, but we think the top rate should go to 39.6%. >> but that's not in concrete. what rate would be acceptable to you and house democrats? >> that sounds pretty good to e me. however, i think if we fall to the clinton era tax rates, i'm okay with that. i think that e we ought to have some wiggle room on the tax rates because i think the country wants us to...
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he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by josh green, new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells, former communications chair karen finney, "washington post's" melinda headen burger and carrie kennedy. for a twitter tutorial, follow @nowwithalex on your twitter machine. "amount reports" is coming up next. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪
he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by josh green, new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells, former communications chair karen finney, "washington post's" melinda headen burger and carrie kennedy. for a twitter tutorial, follow...
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when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >> reporter: craig, as someone who spent some time in river city here in washington, i wanted to show you this. these are the inaugural stands right on pennsylvania avenue, right in front of the white house. i'm looking at them and listening to them right now. they've been going up pretty steadily. these guys work around the clock. january 21st, the president is going to be marching past the white house to live here for another four years. now, about the fiscal cliff, john boehner's in town. that's relatively rare for him to stay in town on the weekend. the president was here, but there were meetings yesterday. nancy pelosi came
when asked if a middle ground could be found, both boehner and biden showed some wiggle room. >> the top brackets have to go up. it's not a negotiable issue. theoretically we can negotiate how far up. >> reporter: at another local restaurant, the owner has seen enough of washington gridlock. >> i wish those lawmakers would get their [ bleep ] together and get it done and try to help everybody. it would be good if they could do it before the holidays are over. >>...
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hillary clinton's favorable rating is at 0%, higher than the president's, higher than vice president biden. she is more popular than the republicans tested who may be laying the groundwork. paul ryan, jeb bush and marco rubio. by the way, newt gingrich said sunday on "meet the press" what makes her such a formidable opponent. >> if the competitor in 2016 will be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably still relatively popular president barack obama trying to win that will be truly the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> so should we do our little meter every week? do you want to us do it every day? tweet me some advice. how do we deal with hillary watch 2016? if you want it daily, let us know. if you want it weekly, if you need a break, you're not going to get a break. the question is daily or weekly and we'll throw jeb into that mix as well. clinton still has some real work to do before she leaves her current job, and it may well be dominated by the crisis in syria where violence from the 21-month-old civil war is spilling
hillary clinton's favorable rating is at 0%, higher than the president's, higher than vice president biden. she is more popular than the republicans tested who may be laying the groundwork. paul ryan, jeb bush and marco rubio. by the way, newt gingrich said sunday on "meet the press" what makes her such a formidable opponent. >> if the competitor in 2016 will be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably still relatively popular president barack obama trying to win...
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to run, so is this shaping up to a battle between biden and clinton? i know it's very far out, and you know politics better than anyone. >> it is very far out. >> the fact -- >> auz know -- >> she's got all this going for her right now. >> well, conventional wisdom generally gets disproven, but as the secretary clinton knows better than anyone, but there's no question, she has been on a roll for good reason. she's been extremely successful as secretary of state. she is someone who is known and respected around the world, so she has done a remarkable job, and she's done it in a way after a very tough campaign in 2008 that really is a best of what american politics can be about and should be about. that is, after a tough election, you move on to do what's right for the country, and she's done that. i don't think there's any limit to her potential, and that's going without saying based upon what she's succeeded at. on the other hand, you know, this is a very personal decision, as she knows better than anyone, because she's been through it, and she's lived
to run, so is this shaping up to a battle between biden and clinton? i know it's very far out, and you know politics better than anyone. >> it is very far out. >> the fact -- >> auz know -- >> she's got all this going for her right now. >> well, conventional wisdom generally gets disproven, but as the secretary clinton knows better than anyone, but there's no question, she has been on a roll for good reason. she's been extremely successful as secretary of state....
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there's governor cuomo of new york and vice president biden who hopefully has talked about running in 2016. both sides are playing this game not just republicans. >> all right, thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> also making news a developing story in atlanta. fire officials say more than two dozen people have been overcome by carbon monoxide at an elementary school. everyone is expected to be okay after being taken to the hospital. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton says if syria uses chemical weapons against its own people the u.s. will act. there are reports indicating syria has been moving chemical weapons in the last couple of days. secretary clinton says their use would be a red line for the united states. >>> the parents of an 8-year-old georgia girl say they want to warn other parents after their daughter was bit by a dolphin at seaworld and they caught it on tape. take a look. sfwhoo. >> the girl's father post this on youtube saying seaworld is trivializing what happened but seaworld said employees and health professionals attended to the girl immediately. and that th
there's governor cuomo of new york and vice president biden who hopefully has talked about running in 2016. both sides are playing this game not just republicans. >> all right, thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> also making news a developing story in atlanta. fire officials say more than two dozen people have been overcome by carbon monoxide at an elementary school. everyone is expected to be okay after being taken to the hospital. >>> secretary of state hillary...
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first we heard joe biden he was visiting a diner. as part of this administration p.r. campaign the president went to the toy factory. he's been with middle class people. he's had a parade of ceos marching in and out of the white house. the president is trying to build support both publicly and privately, meeting behind closed doors with nancy pelosi last night. behind this idea of raising taxes on the rich today. he said he would not compromise on that. but all along there has been the suspicion there could be that kind of compromise, that's where the wig wiggle room was. you talk to people about town close to this negotiation and close to negotiations like this over the years. they said it would likely in the end fall somewhere in between there. they could move as susan was saying that $250,000 that floor could go up somewhere around 500,000. we've asked the white house this a million different ways. they always come back to the same question. it's the revenue. but on the political side, the white house feels as though they won the election, they won that battle. and
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>> it's interesting he used the language because that was the same language that vice president biden used when he was being interviewed by chris matthews on "hardball." the fever breaking is clearly a term of art in terms of what the white house seeins as the probl. as krystal's point, the politics has changed in some way. we don't have the deal set yet but when was the last time a democratic candidate had the guts to campaign saying that taxes would rise. republicans have had this game of fear playing out for many cycles now, to say we always win when we promise to cut taxes. those are the gifts that they were using and offering in mitt romney's terms. it didn't work this time. it actually worked for the president to say, okay, it's not taxes rising on everyone but some people will pay more taxes. that kind of play book has worked time and time again. ultimately what breaks the fever? the trump card is with the president. taxes will go up if they do nothing. going over the cliff will see taxes going up on everyone and that's what republicans can avert if they choose to do so. >> kry
>> it's interesting he used the language because that was the same language that vice president biden used when he was being interviewed by chris matthews on "hardball." the fever breaking is clearly a term of art in terms of what the white house seeins as the probl. as krystal's point, the politics has changed in some way. we don't have the deal set yet but when was the last time a democratic candidate had the guts to campaign saying that taxes would rise. republicans have had...
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years in regards to the debt limit and simpson-boles and in regards to the budget control act other biden talks with eric cantor there is some way forward. this is their blueprint for it. the wonks get deep in the policy. we asked questions in the briefing about that. i asked about the further discretionary savings, 300 billion, about what type of programs are included that. the house progressive caucus is hesitant to cut anything like food stamps that have been on the chopping block before. they say there's a caps that house committees would agree to. what we see from this offer is the speaker saying, look, we can do big savings, we can do a down payment to get us through until next year and then have congress work on a bipartisan way to have a bigger agreement. one other sticking point here, this sequester is not identified in this proposal. so what does that mean? all those defense cuts we heard so much about, essentially the answer is there's enough savings in this plan that could -- that we could deal with the sequester, saying there could be a punt on the sequester by the savings on
years in regards to the debt limit and simpson-boles and in regards to the budget control act other biden talks with eric cantor there is some way forward. this is their blueprint for it. the wonks get deep in the policy. we asked questions in the briefing about that. i asked about the further discretionary savings, 300 billion, about what type of programs are included that. the house progressive caucus is hesitant to cut anything like food stamps that have been on the chopping block before....
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joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report. the labor market diminished a little bit in december. that's why the unemployment rate fell down, not because of extra jobs. but all told, especially expecting sandy's damage, it was a pretty good report and it shows that there's some und underlying momentum. the argument from the president or from anyone who cares are this economic recovery, it would be a crazy time to throw a monkey wrench at an ongoing recovery that has a little bit of momentum. >> ron, to you on this. talking about sandy, there seems to be a lack of sandy effect as some had thought initially. we see a pullback, a little less th
joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report....
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morning shows clinton's favorability rating is higher than that of president obama and vice president biden as well as some of the most tested republicans of the 2012 race. so what is it that right now gives her this broad and formidable political appeal? because this is certainly a turnaround from what we've seen. because in '08, you know, she didn't lose the presidential election. she lost the primary to get there. so this is a big step forward in four years. >> it is. and, you know, her aides, her former aides, are just so delighted by it. they say there are people who worked for her all the way back in the white house who said to me when i reported this story, i finally feel like the country really sees hillary clinton. you know, they see how hard working she is, how dedicated, et cetera, et cetera. those are their words. not mine. but there is this moment of incredible popularity she has. part of it comes from being secretary of state. right? because she hasn't gotten involved in some of the very nasty political wrangling we've seen in this country for the last couple of years. she has
morning shows clinton's favorability rating is higher than that of president obama and vice president biden as well as some of the most tested republicans of the 2012 race. so what is it that right now gives her this broad and formidable political appeal? because this is certainly a turnaround from what we've seen. because in '08, you know, she didn't lose the presidential election. she lost the primary to get there. so this is a big step forward in four years. >> it is. and, you know,...
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angeles this week and has a fund-raiser scheduled in the washington suburbs and that vice president joe biden has been meeting with his donors. and david wrote, hillary clinton is running for president. he came to that conclusion after attending a forum in washington where hillary clinton was a featured speaker and was introduced by what remnick calls a short, adoring film. the film was like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary. >> if you bet on the side of human rights, human dignity, more countries may have the same extraordinary good fortune that we've had. ♪ and when you smile >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl you're amazing just the way you are ♪ >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> joining me now, "the washington post" and jonathan capeheart. >> come on, these leaving her term as secretary of state. she's arguably been one of the best that we've had in a while. she's loved by clearly lots of
angeles this week and has a fund-raiser scheduled in the washington suburbs and that vice president joe biden has been meeting with his donors. and david wrote, hillary clinton is running for president. he came to that conclusion after attending a forum in washington where hillary clinton was a featured speaker and was introduced by what remnick calls a short, adoring film. the film was like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary....
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if vice president biden runs, which has been speculated about, there will be a real conundrum, and i think there's a conundrum for the democratic establishment if secretary clinton goes there. a lot of people feel that she would really be able to get the support of the big democratic donors and traditional parts of democratic party but not be able to bring along new parts of obama coalition, hence the gay marriage sticking point. 2016 is definitely wide open. hillary clinton was referred to me recently by an operative on the democratic side, very involved in the early jockeying says she's the 800-pound gorilla. if she goes the field is not necessarily hers for the taking, but she would have a significant advantage coming into the race. >> when the former president is asked if his wife will run, he always says he has no idea. is there any indication behind the scenes that she's either annoyed, flattered or feels pressure as so many people -- the election wasn't even over, and everyone had their list of republicans running. of course, her name has always been there for democrats. >> i
if vice president biden runs, which has been speculated about, there will be a real conundrum, and i think there's a conundrum for the democratic establishment if secretary clinton goes there. a lot of people feel that she would really be able to get the support of the big democratic donors and traditional parts of democratic party but not be able to bring along new parts of obama coalition, hence the gay marriage sticking point. 2016 is definitely wide open. hillary clinton was referred to me...
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. >> biden. >> suppose she makes the decision and decides to run, you paralyze the democratic side. no donors are going to move, rightly so, because they want to find out -- >> and it completely influences the republican side because they're going to have to get somebody that can raise a bunch of money -- >> that's what mike allen said earlier. the only thing that matters is how do you go against her? how can you beat her? >> that's the only litmus test. >> mark halperin, you had said that last hour. the prism that republicans are viewing potential candidates, whether it's marco rubio or jeb bush or anybody else, can you beat hillary clinton? >> you know, i mean, it's just incredible. this is, i think, going to be my seventh presidential cycle. i've never seen a cycle like this setting up this way where she really is not just in her own party but in the race overall. i don't like, as you know, you tried to get me to talk about "game change 2." "game change 3," working title, the coronation. >> exactly. >> president obama has not been sworn in yet for his second term, and we're alrea
. >> biden. >> suppose she makes the decision and decides to run, you paralyze the democratic side. no donors are going to move, rightly so, because they want to find out -- >> and it completely influences the republican side because they're going to have to get somebody that can raise a bunch of money -- >> that's what mike allen said earlier. the only thing that matters is how do you go against her? how can you beat her? >> that's the only litmus test. >>...
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new poll that shows hillary clinton the top contender in 2016 followed by america's happy warrior joe biden at 16%. senator elect elizabeth warren comes in at 4%. what's the takeaway for you, angela? >> i think that people appreciate the fact that secretary clinton has demonstrated clear leadership at the state department, and they think it's her turn. it's her time. >> angela, matt, dave, thank you all so much. do appreciate your time. and thanks to you as well for spending time with us this sundays afternoon. that will do it for me right now. keep it here on msnbc for the latest news. i'll be back next saturday 2:00 until 5:00 eastern on saturday. 3:00 until 5:00 eastern on sunday. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. have a fantastic sundays night. [ dylan ] this is one way to keep your underwear clean. this is another! ta-daa! try charmin ultra strong. it cleans so well and you can use up to four times less than the leading value brand. oh! there it is. thanks son. hey! [ female announcer ] charmin ultra strong has a duraclean texture that can help you get clean while still us
new poll that shows hillary clinton the top contender in 2016 followed by america's happy warrior joe biden at 16%. senator elect elizabeth warren comes in at 4%. what's the takeaway for you, angela? >> i think that people appreciate the fact that secretary clinton has demonstrated clear leadership at the state department, and they think it's her turn. it's her time. >> angela, matt, dave, thank you all so much. do appreciate your time. and thanks to you as well for spending time...